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OK, I've had a look and found a few things that might help diagnose this. It's definitely something to do with the conversion. I can create a new document with a short list, and mark them as bullet points, and if I save it as.odt, it opens up again fine, but if I save as Word 97/2000/XP, it re-opens with the odd characters. I also have problems if I save in any of the other Word formats, but that just appears to be incorrect spacing, but with the right characters.
So, how do I go about logging this as a bug so it ca be fixed?. Hi, Thanks, guys, for your replies. It's sort of understandable that the symbol is just being displayed incorrectly, the problem is that it's impossible to get correct hardcopy of 'doc' document if it has bullet points unless you go and fix all of them. It makes OO much less usable on Mac, I don't know why its developers bother to support OO on MacOs when they don't fix really annoying and highly visible bugs for years. ODT files work fine, the problem only manifests itself if you close document and open it again, and it has to be 'doc' document. Non default bullets in OO on MacOs are quite ugly.
And, because they are non-default, you still have the same problem when you open document coming from MS Office. A while back, I found a little note from a guy who managed to substitute Symbol font used by OOffice by default with something called 'usyr.pbf' ( I think), which comes as part of TeX & Ghostscript.
Guess what, lots of versions changed since then and solution the guy was proposing did not work, at least not on 2.4, 3.0. It is possible to get TrueType fonts from Microsoft Office, the question is how to incorporate (copy) them into OO without screwing everything else. Is there somebody knowledgeable who had actually done it? I can imagine that the fonts have to be registered somewhere, conflicts resolved, etc. I doubt if simple font substitution within OO will work ( I actually tried that, maybe it was a bit naive attempt). Bullet points are system things, there has to be some other mapping within OO.
Are there any OO developers around? I'm sure that every MacOS user saw this problem, what about Linux/Solaris? Had anybody seen it?
For business applications, it simply makes OO unusable on MacOs. Rob.Crestani wrote:I've had success using the Font Replacement Table, located in the Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org -Fonts Enable 'Apply replacement table', select 'Symbol' in the lefthand FONT drop down, select 'OpenSymbol' in the righthand 'Replace with' dropdown. Press the checkmark to the right to add the substitution to the table. Make sure you check the Always box. Once this is set up, opening and saving in MSWord 97/XP format preserves the bullet characters in both directions. Hope this helps.
Rob Rob, Thanks very much for this tip - it looks, at least initially, to have solved my problem. Akhrissanov wrote: It makes OO much less usable on Mac, I don't know why its developers bother to support OO on MacOs when they don't fix really annoying and highly visible bugs for years. Yes, you're totally right!
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As far as I understood what was said here, the problem comes from inproper character encoding done by some versions of MS Word. So you filed an issue at Microsoft, didn't you? And you got an answer? Would you please be so kind to let us know what the programmers of that bug did say about fixing it for you? Kabing wrote:It might be a font issue. The font specified may not contain the character being used, and OpenOffice.org may be substituting a different font when you reset the bullets and numbering, but somehow that substitution isn't carrying over when the document is closed and reopened.
What happens if you try a different font? What happens if you save the document in odt format? (It may also be a.doc translator issue) Is the Word document in.doc or.docx format? Kabing I was saving the document as a.doc. I tried saving the document as.odt and it works!
Rob.Crestani wrote:I've had success using the Font Replacement Table, located in the Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org -Fonts Enable 'Apply replacement table', select 'Symbol' in the lefthand FONT drop down, select 'OpenSymbol' in the righthand 'Replace with' dropdown. Press the checkmark to the right to add the substitution to the table. Make sure you check the Always box. Once this is set up, opening and saving in MSWord 97/XP format preserves the bullet characters in both directions. Hope this helps. Rob Rob, Thanks very much for this tip - it looks, at least initially, to have solved my problem. Sorry but it didn't work for me.
If one keeps the document as a.odt works without problem. Go to Format - Bullets and Numbering - Under 'Bullets' select one (I always choose the first one) - Under 'Options' - Numbering choose Bullet, Character Style choose Bullets, Character choose your Font and find the character you want to use. (I use Times New Roman - punctuation and choose the small dot) Then go to your doc and make your bullets.
This workaround has one problem - if you close the doc and then want to do more bullet points you have to redo the settings (The bullets you already did will be ok but new ones will revert to boxes even if it looks like your settings are correct). If someone can tell me how to make the settings stick it would be great. Thanks @hedrick. Your approach seems to work great.
Created test file with some bulleted lists in OoO Save and close file Opened file in OoO, observed carets instead of expected bullets Closed file Placed your symbol.ttf font in directory indicated, Restarted OoO Opened file in OoO Observed expected bullets Started Windows 7 virtual machine in Fusion Opened test file in Word 2007 Observed expected bullet lists Added a new bulleted list Saved and closed file in Word 2007 Re-opened file in OoO Observed all bullets as expected. For anyone confused by the directory location @hedrick gave above, go to your Application folder, right click on 'OpenOffice.org.app' and select 'Show Package Contents'. Then you can drill down into the folders he gave and copy/paste the file he has provided.
It is ugly to have to download and install a font file from someone I don't know just to solve this problem, but for me it is pretty much the only interop problem remaining between Word and OoO. Until now I've tried hard to ignore it, knowing the files appear OK when I send them to Word users. I have to admit it is very nice now to have the proper bullets appear. @all: Please let me know if @hedrick's file is actually a trojan. Thanks again. Hi everyone, Was searching on a fix for bullets changing to carets and found this thread. I saw the post for using the font replacement manager.
I have a Mac w 10.4 but i can't seem to find this. And the post by hedrick, I don't have a path like that, or that I can find anyway. I was looking for a way that I could modify, or create a new template with my standard margins, font and size, bullets. Then on opening a doc file if i get the carets I could select all and apply the template. Seems like a reasonable solution, just haven't figured out how. Thx for any help!
I'm having the same exact problem. The bullet point sounds like what digitaldave described nearly 2 yours ago and looks exactly like the image that phatpmg shortly thereafter posted. I've been able to change the bullet points, but once the file is saved, closed and reopened, this image reappears as the default bullet point. The character style specified under the options tab in Format - Bullets and Numbering is WW8Num9z0.
My solution has been to save the doc a.odt but I think I'll try saving it as a Windows Office 95.doc. Tfernsle wrote:To get to the Font Replacement Table using Open Office on a Mac, and fix symbols; OpenOffice.org - Preferences - OpenOffice.org - Fonts 1) check 'apply replacement table' 2) under the 'Font' drop-down select 'Symbol' 3) under the 'Replace With' crop-down select 'OpenSymbol' 4) check the green checkmark to the left, your mapping should show up in the replacement table 5) check 'always' next to the symbol mapping 6) hit 'ok' 7) rest like a god Thank you!!! This worked for me also. Tfernsle wrote:To get to the Font Replacement Table using Open Office on a Mac, and fix symbols; OpenOffice.org - Preferences - OpenOffice.org - Fonts 1) check 'apply replacement table' 2) under the 'Font' drop-down select 'Symbol' 3) under the 'Replace With' crop-down select 'OpenSymbol' 4) check the green checkmark to the left, your mapping should show up in the replacement table 5) check 'always' next to the symbol mapping 6) hit 'ok' 7) rest like a god there is no 'OpenSymbol' it does NOT exist fir me!!!